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Derek Neal's avatar

This was great, and you've given me a lot of stuff to think about. I recently read my first Bernhard novel (Extinction) and will be reading more, so thanks for linking that essay. With regards to the spiritual or religious aspect of art, I think you're correct as well. One of my favorite critical ideas is Paul Schrader's idea of "transcendental style" in film, which Susan Sontag also wrote about (calling it "spiritual style"). They both see this style of filmmaking, which is expressed through form rather content, in the films of Robert Bresson. I think it exists in literature, too, but I'm not going to attempt to describe it here. My main thought is that it has something to do with slowing down time and capturing a state of consciousness akin to that of prayer or meditation. The lyrics you quote do that as well I'd say.

Just a quick aside about that Fitzgerald tweet--I can remember reading "Gatsby" in 12th grade and loving it. I didn't totally grasp it at the time (not that I should claim to now, either), but it led to me reading all of Fitzgerald's other novels. My teacher had us do a close reading of a couple of paragraphs and it was actually this experience that I remember the most, the idea that you could analyze language, study it, take it apart, read between the lines to see what it was doing, and then try to articulate this in your own language. That was a great class, now that I think about it...

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Kevin LaTorre's avatar

You might've heard of or listened to this curious conversation between three Substack leaders, which (after yet one more Nietzchean debate) added comments about the digital future of fiction on the platform: https://cb.substack.com/p/jasmine-in-the-arena

Far better to be with your spiritual vision of literature (maybe any spiritual vision) than whatever Best, Suh, and Baker offering. They foreground the usefulness of status signals in selling fiction through the platform, with the obligatory mention of an N+1 tote as a sort of model. It's literature as social accessory; a book is for display on the coffee table; author's names are external of taste. Canny as it can sound for solving the subscription problems on this platform, it's disheartening to hear fiction yet again conceived as primarily potential social capital, wholly without its own value independent of that interpersonal visibility (and this from its self-proclaimed saviors in the digital age).

Baker (whom I'd previously liked as a sort of mystic-techie oddball) contributed a vision of digital fiction that relies on fake accounts on social platforms, all dependent on the social pleasures of notifications and following along as a group and a thrilled discussion of such "fictional" antics among a friend group. It's a depressing prescription, which he does he disavow as overt instruction, but I feel like it's a hemmed-in endgame of our cultural autofiction and digital addictions.

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