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Naomi Kanakia's avatar

Always amused by MFA discourse. It is insane to ask aspiring writers to do an MFA in their thirties, when they ought to be making progress towards becoming householders. Just a radical, radical mixup of the stakes of life. If the truly did in any way fit a person for writing better, it might be justifiable as an interruption of one's prime ears of earning and education, but since it doesn't, it's much better relegated to one's twenties.

Given the love in literature for both mediocre writing and for the ingenue, I would say it's much better to succeed in one's youth with a mediocre first novel and then have time for more ambitious work later. The only issue is that if you are overpraised for bad work then you won't know you need to do better. But that's a much better problem than to toil in obedient obscurity for years and years and discover in the end that nobody wants what you are selling.

Obviously all requests for advice are phrased as "how can I write well?" instead of "How can I succeed as a writer?" But in practice very few people have the integrity to believe in their own vision--some exterior validation is generally a necessary catalyst in a writer's development. The MFA if it does anything (doubtful), provides this catalyst by telling young writers that they have promise. To ask people to believe in their own promise for decades, in the absence of exterior validation, will be far more corrosive to their abilities and determination than early ambition might be.

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Tardigrade_Sonata's avatar

A lot of MFA discourse focuses on the content (of writing “craft” or the reading lists) or — as Naomi mentions — their role as a sort of early validation/motivation (should I actually try to spend my life doing this?) but almost never frankly acknowledged is their function as an ersatz artistic milieu, a sort of establishment provided scene or set. And obviously this goes for film school and other types of MFAs. I have wondered about this in relation to the cost of urban living rising over time (I guess in the 20s you could just move to Paris, or Greenwich Village in the 50s, etc.). Surely there’s more to it than that, maybe a Laschian thing where young people consciously (or not) feel more at ease if the PMC/academic blob curates their Kunstleroman. But it also represents a huge (if gradual) shift in the last 100 years toward writing fiction as a vocation being a respectable path for the children of the upper-middle class. I really do think very different sorts of people are represented in the MFA bloc now, who carry with them more practical/careerist/bourgeois attitudes toward the whole thing (and maybe that’s self-sustaining and a consequence of assortative mating - I read somewhere recently that tenure-track professors in the humanities are more likely to be the children of professors than at any time in the past, which is wild). For the record I enjoyed my MFA, but almost never think of it! Lol. At least in the sense of having learned many deep artistic truths in workshop. We did have an elective Ulysses seminar, and even read some Austen and Baudelaire, but yes it was slanted terribly post-1940s.

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